Mystery of 8th House in vedic Astrology Part 2 : Understanding Spirituality and analyzing case studies

Spiritual Experience regarding 8th house: Kundalini and Chakra

In First Post we try to understand how the 8th house has a deep relation with the longevity, pain, sufferings and life transformations, now in this part, we will try to understand How deeply it is important for Raising once spiritual awakening.

Readers can check on Part 1st of 8th house deep factors from Here

During the recent past years, I have heard and seen from many of people who are scared about the dreaded fear of 8th house – as being 8th house is always about a house of death, house of past birth curses, house of sufferings, Delays, Hurdles and obstacles and Many more blah blah things without knowing its spiritual essence etc.

One should always remember the death of Soul and Body is only one aspect of the 8th house, it has many more hidden secrets that are stored in the deep mystery world.

Death is majorly seen only when the strength of Lagnesh (1st) and 8th lord is purely devoid and weakly placed in D1, D9 and d60 chart.The main planet for Seeing Death via 8th house is always a separative planet ( Nodes ).

Always remember God never punishes you without any reason, he is the one who gives us new chance and watches our every action, and those who aspire to reach new heights for the new spiritual journey out of your past karmic actions and sins, he gave them bliss of spirituality for guiding mankind in the right path. Those who are in fear or guilt of their past actions god gave them first opportunity to learn and helps to let them transform themselves into a new path of spirituality for the well being of own soul and other pathless souls.

Astrologically, let me tell you 8th house energy is not easy to understand in simple layman language, it’s being Karka house of Scorpio, Saturn (Longevity) and Ketu (Occult and higher Spirituality).One should know first what saturn (Karmic Transformations), Scorpio and Ketu   (Pending Karams, Occult and divine spirituality) represents – Initially Saturn being lord of Mooladhara chakra first gets disturbed here due to imbalanced mundane desires arise after sufferings, delays and hurdles and out of those difficulties it makes person first empty hand and when further those disappointments makes your more closer toward higher divine path it activated the Kundalini energies toward higher chakras and when all the chakras in balance state, everything including any sort of mundane desires will be comes to you without any efforts but in right time, but first preparation and learning is important Here.

Ketu being the karka of 8th it makes you ultimate divine and after learning of pending karmic duties it balances you so that you can move further without support. It’s the Universal rule, to activate your kundalni energy you need to first become balance and eligible for it and when it reaches to 12th house (Higher Sub Conscious samadhi) it makes one more toward higher almighty and its dhayan.

logically it’s not a house of death of Body and Soul, its a house of death of ego and false intelligence (represented by lagana) being falling in 8th from 1st – it ends the lagana false properties and over proud – as Rahu and Sun being stronger in lagana.

It’s more a house of spiritual transformation and sacrificing your mundane desires and gives a new understanding of spirituality being falling in 9th from 12th. It’s about the house of surrendering your false ego and destroying your falseness given by Lagana.

when you surrender all of your mundane desires and greeds it gives you new transformations that where your new experience spiritual journey starts. Mundane sufferings lead to the new journey of spirituality and transformations and end is peace and you will be a blessed one that where the roles of 9th house came ( Divine wisdom).

That’s why it is falling in 5th (Skilled require for Bhakti) from 4th – the moksha trine, where 4th is the bhakti sthan then 8th is the house of sadhna required for bhakti for divine mother – where it sits. being fallen in 12th from 9th house of Sanchit karama it represents the what is left from your past karams – the debits of past that you have to finish in this birth without any if and buts. Debits are not curses, they are left over tasks that you have to finish in any case. Its not a house of curses it only shows your debits of past wrt to your past karmas and actions you had unknowingly done by moving in Adharamic path due to negligence of intelligence and believing in false ego and proud.

 

Being the Natural Zodiac house of the Scorpio and 8th house it is related to the Mooladhara chakra whose colour is yellow shows the root energy sit in the Kundalini (8th house) at the bottom of the spine goes toward upward direction to lagana where Sahasara chakra sits, hence planet placed in the 8th house shows beginning of the Kundalini energy rising toward upward direction and how it manifest via the planetary energy.

2) If Ketu is there in the 8th house it shows Kundalini rises suddenly and native need to deal with the sudden burst of energy even they did not performed the spiritual practices earlier.

3) Venus shows awakening of Kundalini via  Following celibacy.

4) Saturn Shows Kundalini Awakening via following Discipline and Hatha Yoga but role of Ketu is most important to balance it.

5) Mars shows Awakening via Following Vyayam  and practicing physical exercises and preserving Virya.

6) Sun Shows Awakening via Gyana Yoga and Atamic Realization.

7) Jupiter shows via the help of one Guru or Spiritual practices did under a learned guru.

So, those having any number of malefic or beneficial planets in 8th house they need not worry, it’s not meant for you to suffer unknowingly it has some deeper meaning, it’s only a call from the higher divine to Surrender yourself toward him and move ahead in the path of spirituality, Yoga, and Divine union  that’s what it shows 11th from 10th house- new beginning (11th) of your karma (10th)
for a society that is needed in this birth.

Only Rahu in the 8th house act as Blockage for Spiritual progress via without strict discipline, it usually disperses the Kundalini energy required to maintain it via Praan Vayu and for moving through via spine, as one cannot able to sacrifice his ego or completely surrender himself toward the almighty.Without total surrender, one can not attain the Kundalini.

In simple language 8th house shows your new spiritual journey toward higher goals, those having planets in 8th house, first Surrender your ego and let move your soul toward a higher journey of hidden secrets of spirituality.

 

Planets in the 8th House:

Sun in the Eighth House

The focus is on hiding one’s true nature and makes the individual extremely private and secretive. These individuals are blessed with intuition, psychic abilities, deep dreams, and depth of empathy. These individuals often benefit financially from the father or the father’s side of the family. Healing energies are the blessing of this placement and this person often keeps who they are a secret. Many individuals with this placement are drawn to fields such as law enforcement, psychiatry, massage therapy, counseling, detective work and any field that deals with death, change and behind the scenes actions. People with problems and pain are drawn to these individuals for healing. These individuals have a strong, powerful, intense presence.

The focus is on concealing the emotions. These individuals are emotional, passionate and sensitive. They feel other people’s pain and the suffering of others weighs on them. They have to learn to protect themselves because they are highly emphatic and absorb all of the secrets and subtle energy in the environment. These individuals often benefit financially or receive an inheritance from the mother or the mother’s side of the family. These individuals suffer through the sacrifice of themselves for others and often in their lives feel victimized emotionally by others. Issues of sexuality often bring confusion and suffering until they find the right person to share intimacy with. These individuals bond through the sexual experience and need not only physical but emotional depth in any relationship.

The focus is on a depth of thought and communication. These individuals need deep communication and intellectual intimacy in relationships. They enjoy sharing their deepest, darkest secrets with others and need others to open up to them verbally. They often keep their thoughts to themselves for fear that others will not understand them. These individuals often think about death and their own mortality and at times worry about this topic. They have a keen, insightful mind and sharp tongue.

The energy is focused on keeping the love nature secret and private. These individuals often benefit through the marriage partner and tend to marry someone of a higher financial status than themselves. They are blessed by the partner’s possessions and relationship. Their love nature is deep, possessive and intense.

Mars in the Eighth House

Jupiter in the Eighth House

The energy is focused towards expansion, abundance and good luck. These individuals often inherit money, land, and goods from the dead. They often are naturally lucky and are looked after by others. They draw financial and material things into their lives easier. This is a positive position of Jupiter and I often see individuals with intuitive gifts that come naturally.

The energy is focused on learning and discipline. These individuals are learning self-control and often repress their desires. Sexual tensions are high with this position and often these individuals are afraid of intimacy. They can overcome this fear by being vulnerable and letting go of the need to control their own emotions. This placement also shows a karmic wound in areas of sexuality, intimacy, relationships, death, and inheritances. The positive manifestations of the eighth house may be blocked with this placement because Saturn is the planet of karmic learning and this process is sometimes painful. The true lesson of this placement is to let go of the past and learn to trust others and themselves.

8th house is being a vast house of spirituality, Death and transformations is hard to decode in few words. It need lots of understanding in straight way language. It is something hidden that only we can experience and then we can able to know about it and what world is perceived is beyond of this knowledge, what they are seeing its only the mundane transformation but in actual reality it is a house of what is hidden in destiny that we need to explore from hidden or buried form under the ground.Being the karka house of Scorpio It has deep mystery connected with all the characteristics those have resemblance with the nature of Scorpio i.e death, transformations, Accidents, Bankruptcy, Excretory organs, External Sexual organs, Inheritance, Litigation, occult, Plots, Poison, theft, Agonies, Anger, annihilation, Assassination, breaking of friendships, cancer, crossing large bodies of water, dangerous and fruitless journeys, deep psychotherapy, deep and wild forests defeat, Disputes, enemy fort, fall from height, fear, making loans, (Dishonourable profession), a hole, cavity, imprisonment, insults, long lasting diseases, Longevity, Long or disputed properties, Mental Distress, Monetary loss, partner’s money, punishment from authorities, receiving charities, Religious property, research, robbery, scandal money, trouble to spouse, unchastity, witchcraft, black-magic and all of them leads to higher learning and sufferings but its deep essence lies in understanding the deeper transformations appears in 9th house of wisdom after deeper pain, sufferings and higher realisation.

Difference between 8th house and rest of trik bhavas is that it indicates something very long pending, either it is about diseases or it is linked debt of the past. It gives understanding of chronic nature in every sense either it is about diseases or about realising the pain, but thing is 6th gives idea of an acute diseases, 8th gives understanding of deep chronic diseases.It can gives Legal difficulties  that can destroy anyone life via long term financial crisis, humiliation, scandal or bankruptcy.

Being the house of witchcraft work and Black magic being ruled by the sign  of Scorpio (characteristics comes form the Jyestha Nakashtra reside in sign of Scorpio, linked with disturbance in Pran Vayu that flows in the human body), it has same level of influence on native mind too where moon get debilitated (in the sign of Scorpio, 8th house). Same is connected with its stingy nature that comes from the animal ruled by it, “The Scorpion” bite usually gives neurological shock that is unbearable for any being and the same way Witchcraft work in 8th first effects mind of the native in a much deeper level that is hard for anyone i.e Vashikaran that primarily purpose is to control the mind of person, loosing the strength of the mind or imbalance of the Vayu in the body.

But another side story is why we are getting suffering via Black magic and Witchcraft work in 8th house, reason is only one – the level of suffering we have given to other, same way we have to face in same intensity – somewhat a debt or curse like situation, long pending from many early births.

8th being fallen in 12th from the 9th house (Past birth – shows what is left behind that you have to face in any case or finish or exhaust it). That Pain or suffering we incur by past debts or left behind karama helps us moving into achieving greater liberation or moksha after a death like situation.

We can never experience wisdom and higher philosophy unless and until we may never go through from it. Every Death and Suffering has some higher learning, purpose and teaching of almighty that is kept hidden for society benefits (10th).

Unless and until we never realised that deeper sufferings and transformations connected with the 8th house we can never become a filtered soul who can understand the higher wisdom and philosophy of life that is seen from the 9th house. That’s the reason it is falling in 12th from 9th house, first we need to filter out our left over debts then we can become pious and pure soul who can connect with the true brahma tatva.

In Layman language, 8th house covers primarily transformations of mundane worlds, i.e obstacles seen with respect to 7th (Marriages and partnerships – being falling in 2nd house from 7th house responsible for feeding the marriage, the need or requirement for marriage – The sustain-er house, if 8th is having influence of beneficial planet,  it will sustain the partnerships and joint finances required for growing in mundane world but if malefic’s planets are present in 8th it will block or end the partnership with much suffering, realisation and pain).

It gives Direct challenges in personal and joint financial life, 8th being in 7th from 2nd house (the food of Business).

Malefic’s Being fallen in 8th (Sufferings to the body and intelligence ) from Lagana it affects the longevity of the native and legacy, being a house of 8th and 2nd from 7th, 5th from 4th – inheritance is seen from the 8th house.

Most important it is seen for long lasting chronic health issues pending due to unknown causes but in actual reality true real sense and acute health issues seen from the the 6th house.

Being fallen in 11th from 10th house it gives breaks in career and at the same time shows new beginning or new journey of the career of native as seen from the 8th house. being a house of secret unknown hidden truth it could give unknown destiny to the native and can totally changes the path of career of native.

One must be aware in the dasha of the 8th house Planet/lord Antardasha period for any sudden change in the career path.

 

Spiritual and Astrological Significance of 8th House

In General, The Eighth House is known for the house of “ Deeper Life Transformations, unknown and hidden Obstacles & Longevity related issues those can falls in after Marriage and in personal life”.

8th being a house of the moksha trikona house indicates a house of higher awakening, spiritual learning and self realisation for purification of the inner self and soul. If 8th house is well disposed and beneficially placed and is strong it usually indicates healthy mind, body and soul and one can easily overcome life challenges that comes in life, and related to longevity.

If 8th house is malefically disposed or afflicted by strong malefic planets than it can shows karmic backlogs of past births with intent of having deep grudges and revengeful behavior. One must not stick to these deep hidden revengeful thoughts if the soul is wanted to transform in true reality of higher conscious. Being Karka of something hidden, deep and secretive in nature as what we learns form scorpio signs , it shows hidden activity related to 8th house , as it falls in 2nd from 7th (Marriage partnerships) it shows hidden sexual activities, depending on the nature of sign, planets and state (Beneficial and malefic) it shows the sexual orientation in marriage or in relationships. If it is beneficial native might has soft orientation wrt to Sexuality but same time it is having malefic planets native might have rough and wild sexual orientation wrt to Sexual acts.

Meanwhile these sexual deviancy also helps in rising of one’s kundalini shakti after realising the true essence of Yogi.In Sexual tantras this house has major role for understanding or transforming into yog Marg.At the same time if 7th house shows what you are seeking in close relationships between partnerships – love (Moon in 7th),  Romance or libido (Venus in 7th) , 8th house shows how you manage your sexuality and how sexually you are and what sort of sexual act you follows in bonding.Malefic can shows imbalance in sexual orientation and beneficial shows native of highest order of spiritual moral and follow the same path. People of highest order of spiritual path usually follows strong penance or Tapa Yoga by controlling their sexual energy into highest order of spirituality, that’s why it leads to Moksha and falls under Moksha trikona sthan – being falling in 5th from 4th (Skills required in Moksha or bhakti marg).

For siddha purushas this is the house of Kundali Awakening to reach into highest order of Subconscious mind and its stability and how you went through it – balance it or suffering via it which can results to psychological issues , everything depends on the strength of the 8th house and its lord in d1 and d60 chart. that’s the reason those having strong 8th house have deep hidden talents wrt to occult sciences and blessed with highest order of deep intuitions and psychic abilities.

People falls in these types of categories are well versed in seeing futures those related with deaths and mysteries, can see futuristic dreams those related with Something bad future events or related to destructive points wrt to personal relations or might be related to mundane worlds too.

In many of cases people develops deep interest in decoding deep and hidden meanings of interpreting weird and hidden dreams signals. it has been seen many people have abilities to speaks with dead souls too.

 

Sage Parashara in BPHS has clearly said that the Balarishta and rest of longevity matters should be seen from 8th house, as this house is primarily seen for the longevity matters. Whereas 8th lord shows the over longevity of the native.  Placement of 8th lord in Kendras or Trikonas bhavas shows Long life and in trik bhavas or with affliction from nodes shows issues of  health and long life.

 

Same way there has been A quote in “Sarvartha Chintamani” by “Vyankatesha Sharma Translated by J.N Bhasin” which states that :

“If  the 10th lord is placed in friendly sign, own sign, exaltation signs, it confers long life.Similarly the location of the lords of the 10th, 1st and 8th house lords in Kendra Bhavas ensures long life.”

Reason is why 1st, 8th and 10th are so much important in understanding longevity  Because 3rd from these houses shows what is necessary to perform the duties required by that house. 3rd from Lagna shows Skills required to survive, 3rd from 8th shows Karama ( good and bad karma in society – 10th house) required to ensure longevity and 3rd from 10th shows Moksha, peaceful sleep (12th)

 

 

Same way Shastras has revealed about 7 types of Longevity  for any loka : 

0-8	Balarishta
9­-20	Yogarishta
21-32	Alpa
33-64	Madhya
65-120	Dirgha
121-1000	Divya
Infinity	Amita

Below are the translations of 8th house as explained by Sage:

” O excellent of the Brahmins, listen to me speak on the effects of 8th House. If 8ths Lord is in an angle, long life is indicated.”

“Meaning : It 8th lord is well placed in trines ( 1, 5 and 9th house it indicates long life)

” Should 8ths Lord join Lagnas Lord, or a malefic and be in 8th itself, the native will be short lived.”

Meaning : If 8th lord is connected with Lagnesh or any malefic and all are placed in 8th house then it is a yoga for short life. for e.g Leo Lagana – lagnesh sun (1st) is with Jupiter (8th) and Rahu (7th lord-Markesh) in 8th house that shows short life of the native.

 

 

” Similarly consider Saturn and 10ths Lord in the matter of longevity. 10ths Lord is in 8th along with a malefic Planet and/or Lagnas Lord.

 ” There will be long life, if 6ths Lord is in 12th, or, if 6ths Lord is in 6th, as 12ths Lord is in 12th, or, if 6ths Lord and 12ths Lord are in Lagna and 8th. If the Lords of 5th, 8th and 1st House are in own Navāmśaas, own Rāśis, or in friendly Rāśis, the native will enjoy a long span of life. Should the Lords of Lagna, 8th and 10th House and Saturn are all disposed severally in an angle, in a trine, or in 11th House, the subject will live long. Like these, there are many other Yogas, dealing with the issue of longevity. The strength and weakness of the Planets concerned be estimated in deciding longevity.”

” Ones span of life will be between 20 and 32 years, if Lagnas Lord is weak, while 8ths Lord is an angle. The native will only be short-lived, if 8ths Lord is in fall, while 8th House has a malefic in it and 1st House is bereft of strength. Death will be instant at birth, if 8th House, 8ths Lord and 12th House are all conjunct malefics. Malefics in angles and/or trines and benefics in 6th and/or 8th House, while 1st House has in it 8ths Lord in fall: this Yoga will cause immediate end. If 5th and 8th House and 8ths Lord are all conjunct malefics, the life span will be very brief. Within a month of birth, death will befall the child, if 8ths Lord is in 8th itself, while Moon is with malefics and be bereft of beneficial Aspect.”

 ” One will be long-lived, if Lagnas Lord is in exaltation, while Moon and Jupiter are, respectively, in 11th and 8th House. If Lagnas Lord is exceedingly strong and receives a Aspect from a benefic, which is placed in an angle, the person concerned will be wealthy, virtuous and long-lived.”