Understanding Saturn Part 2- Mystery of Sadesati and working with remedial measures

Understanding the phase of Sade-Sati – The Story Begins – The Sadesati and the King vikramaditya


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The Story lies in the ancient tales from the era of the king Vikramaditya,  Once upon a time, the seven god of the week, were in meeting. Rahu and Ketu are also there. Rahu & Ketu put one question in front of them. The question was “who is the powerful god among us?” They could not decide on this matter. So, they went to Devraj Indra for his adjudication. God Devraj Indra thought if he gave decision in favour of any one god then other will be unsatisfied with me. He told them that respected gods, I am also like you so, how can I decide that who is great & I can’t give an impartial judgment. So, better thing for all of you go to the planet earth. There is King Vikramaditya. He is very good justice on all over the earth. Hearing this entire thing at last all God went to King Vikramaditya.

When all gods came to King Vikramaditya then king gave big respect to them and begged for any king of service. They told him about their problem. It was very difficult task for Vikramaditya. But he was dutiful king so, he accepted this challenge gracefully. After thinking on this, He arranged seven thrones. These thrones were made from Gold, Bronze, Brass, Tin, Zinc, Mica, & iron respectively. The thrones were put by numbers. The Gold throne was put at number one & the iron throne was at the last. Then King Vikramaditya requested to seven gods for grace the throne of their own selection. God Surya (Sun) was in the gold chair while God Shani selected the iron chair.

When the seven gods had sat in the chair of their own selection, Vikramaditya said, “Now according to the order of your throne you may decide your own rank & none can thrust my judgment upon you.” Hearing to this, God Shani (Saturn) stood up & said to King Vikramaditya, “You ranked me the lowest among these gods. You don’t know my power. Sun can stay on a Zodiac (Rashi) for One to Two months, Marsh for half and one month, Jupiter for maximum thirteen months, Mercury and Venus for one month only. Rahu & Ketu for eighteen months. But only me who can reign a Zodiac from two and half years to seven and half years. This period is called as “sade sathi”. Due to this sade saathi period powerful god also trembled. When I was angry on Rama then he got banishment instead of throne. Now be prepared because it’s your turn.” Saying all this God shani went back.

After a very short time, the “Sade Sathi” period was occupies by Shanidev on Zodiac of Vikramaditya. From here, king’s sade sathi period began which was for seven & half year. Shani dev went to Vikramaditya’s kingdom as a horse-seller & he had very attractive horses. People were also praise of those horses. When King Vikramaditya heard about the strange horses, he sent to Ashawapal to buy a best horse for him & when Ashawapal came with one attractive horse, then king was so pleased to see the horse that he could not stop himself for riding on this horse. But, when he was riding on horse, the horse disappeared in the air with a great speed. After a few second king was in deep and thick forest. He had very tired. Due to out of his kingdom, King Vikramaditya faced many problems. These entire problems were created by God Shani dev.

At the palace of Ujjaini, Queen Madenlekha was worried about King Vikramaditya. Queen Madenlekha was the devotee of Shani Dev. So, she requested to Shani dev to save her husband. Due to the Prayer of Queen Madenlekha, Shanidev promised that I will save your husband but he has to endure for his work (Karma).

King Vikramaditya was out of from his kingdom so, no body was introducing him. At last Vikramaditya reached a nearby city and in the city he met a respectable businessman. This businessman also not introduced Vikramaditya. King was looking like a beggar. With the sympathy, the businessmen took him to his home and arranged food for him. On that day businessman earned more profit due to the grace of Shani dev. But, he thought that this man (King) is lucky for him. Thinking this he kept him to his house for work.

The king was enduring his Sade Sathi period. He was living in the Businessman’s home by changed name. After some days, there was a marriage of Businessman’s daughter. In this marriage Vikramaditya was the responsible person. He went to the market with businessmen’s another daughter for purchasing of Marriage’s material. In the market, Vikramaditya met to shanidev who was in disguise. Shanidev gave a picture of duck to Vikramaditya.

The marriage arrangement was going on properly. Suddenly, the marriage’s necklace of bride had lost. The necklace was swallowed by the duck which was in picture. Businessmen’s wife asked to king about necklace but King could not explain anything to her. She thought that king is thief and she arrested him by the soldier of king Chandrasen.

King Chandrasen was the enemy of King Vikramaditya. Looked to Vikramaditya, King Chandrasen was very happy. He ordered to their soldiers that King Vikramaditya’s hands and feet be cut with one stroke of a sward. Listening to this order Vikramaditya cried out. But, Soldiers cuts the hand & feet of him.

Now, The King was without hand and feet. He was dallying like Beggar. An “Oil seed Crusher (Teli)” was looking him and he felt pity on him. He took him to his house and arranged food for him. He also dressed the king’s wounds and after some days, Teli made him capable of driving the bullocks around the grinding machine. Now, Vikramaditya can do his work properly. Like this time passed on. The Sade Sathi period was about to be over.

One night, the king was alone in his work. He was singing song. The voice was sweet. His voice was breaking the silence of the night. In the nearest kingdom, one princess heard the song & she got fascinated towards the singer (Vikramaditya). Princess called to her personal attendant and sent him to know about the singer. After some time, the attendant came back and he told to princess that the singer was servant of “Teli” and he is handicapped. Listening to this thing, Princess decided that she would marry with that singer otherwise she would remain unmarried throughout her life. When princess parents heard about this decision they resented on princess. But, ultimately they were ready for that decision.
The King (father of princess) went to the Teli with the proposal of Marriage. The king said to Teli, “Arrange for the marriage of this handicapped person, my daughter wants to marry with this man.” Teli did not believe on king but at the final teli became ready for marriage.

Marriage of Princess and handicapped Vikramaditya was over. But princess parents were not happy. At the mid-night of honeymoon King Vikramaditya had a small nap. God Shani dev visited to the King’s dream and said, “King Vikramaditya, you ranked me the lowest among the gods. All this happened with you this is effect of my sight. You have undergone enough sufferings for your misjudgment. But now your Sade Sathi period has over.” Hearing this news king became happy and he requested to Shani dev “Do not inflict such suffering in future on anyone like me. The God accepted the king’s request and disappeared.

When King Vikramaditya opened his eyes, he became surprise to see that his hands and feet in proper shape. The princess & her family member were also so much happy to see this. But when they knew about the reality of handicapped person that he is King Vikramaditya, king (princess father) was overwhelmed with joy and praised his stars.

This news reached immediately in all area & nearest area. The businessman also got this news and felt guilty to his behavior with Vikramaditya. He went to Vikramaditya & requested him, “Excuse me for my wrong behavior with you.” And he also invited him for dinner. King Vikramaditya accepted his request & next day he went to businessman’s house for dinner. In the house of businessman, King Vikramaditya said, “I shall dine in the same room where the necklace had lost.” Without asking any question, the businessman arranged the dinner in that room. When the Vikramaditya were dining, he saw to his great surprise that the invaluable necklace was emerging from the same duck which was in picture. This Imaging thing was seen by all the people who were present in that house. The businessman was so much overwhelmed with joy and he too decided to marry off his daughter to Vikramaditya.

After some days, King Vikramaditya returned to his Kingdom. Queen Madenlekha became so much happy to see Vikramaditya has returned to his kingdom. On the next day in the court, The King Vikramaditya said to his courtiers to make a proclamation by the beat of drum that God Shani is also powerful like other God and so, they should keep fast on Saturday as a mark of honor of God Shani dev. After that in the kingdom of King Vikramaditya, there was arrangement of worship of Shani dev at every Saturday. Now, Vikramaditya & his two queens were live happily.

(Reference and Source : Greatness of Saturn: A Therapeutic Myth by Robert E. Svoboda)


Now what actually is Sadesati ?

Sade Sati is basically the testing and learning period of 7.5 year of Saturn transit in the zodiac signs of 12th, 1st and 2nd house from the natal moon.Meanwhile saturn do effects when it comes to 4th (Mind) and 8th (Health) from the natal Moon. To understand Sadesati, one should need to understand what actually sade-sati signifies and what are karamas influence on our life. It’s basically a testing and transformation phase of Past birth ” Praradbha” or  Karmic actions to filter out our deeds and to realize the true essence of Karama one should do in any birth. 

Either you have to face your karmic actions or deed of this birth or you have to face the karmic actions of your deeds of 100 years back you had done either in conscious or non-conscious mind but rule of karama is one has to pay back those deeds in any case. chance from chasing away or moving away from them is only depends on the divine wish of almighty, whether to reduce it or maximise it via your utter devotion, though karma principals are very much straight and divine, If you do your current karama with uttermost devotion and bhakti bhav. 

Sade-sati essence is to realise your neglected and pending karmic duties those you are either ignoring or neglecting in any of your birth. if it is the sins you had done then the phase of sade-sati would be very much trans-formative and intense. If your Saturn is Ak or retrograde then the phase of Saturn Sadesati would be soul transforming and it will give lots of ups and down but it will make you the true devotee of almighty and very much spiritual to finish off  those tasks given to you or those are pending from past.  

One should not need to worry or fear of sade-sati if he is true and pious from inside the soul or  if he is doing his current “ Kiryamani or aagmi karma “ with uttermost and selfless care. ” If Saturn is digbali or exalted ( you are blessed  by the Narayana ) and if it  well placed in chart or having Good Shadbala strength or it is well placed in Saptavargi  or dashavargi charts then sade-sati would be blessing to that Native”. He would be devotee of Karma or Shani dev internally. 

One who follows the Bhagwad Geeta and karma theory  he never need to worry on account of his karamic actions, those are need to fear those souls are corrupted by the 6 weaknesses in any of birth. 

Astrologically ,saturn 7.5 years have three phases- first phases teaches and gives us major lessons via close relationships (wife, Children, Friends, Loved ones, mother, fathers and Guru’s etc in our life regarding that house matters.One can learn so much in this period both positively or in negatively way but end would be good for you when Saturn will cross your natal Degree of saturn in transit chart. 

for e.g if your Saturn is placed in 15 degree in natal chart then first phase of sade-sati would be effectively start working near mid of first phase of 2.5 years and  would be the time period when you can start getting your lessons of life.

2nd phase of Sade-sati teaches us about individualities and weaknesses we incur via our thoughts and desires, here saturn filters out our weak thoughts  and endless desires and actually it is the root cause of your birth when you can learn your lessons of past, Moon shows the root cause or root reason of past birth. 

Lessons and sufferings would be either health sufferings, mental weakness, anxieties, by enforcing strict discipline in our mind and letting us understand that we must let our desires and greed goes out and become satvik from Ideology  and we should not try to stick to them to harm others. Here natives learns that one has to suffer mentally and physically both to understand how we must sacrifices our desires, may be those desires or greeds become root reasons for sufferings to others in any of birth.So, always watch your actions and Thoughts what  you are doing in current birth. 

3rd phase of saturn sadesati phase of life little bit gives relaxations in our life and teaches us about how important are our material and family responsibilities in material or karmic world, here saturn teaches us that we must not leave our family responsibilities alone or in half and should dutifully done those without sacrificing personal goals.

Here lord of karma teaches us that we must not be lethargic in all family duties and goals, he teaches why Kutuambh and relations living in those are so much important and we must fulfill them with responsibilities.I hope this will help you to understand what actually lord shani dev wanted to teach us via our root reason of birth. 

Remedies of Saturn Sadesati and Dasha periods:


1. Light Mustard oil lamp in the temple before Shani Dev Idol on every Saturday, follow this it for either 11 Saturday or 7 Saturdays in evening.

2. Distribute (Khichdi Made of Kaali Maa Ki Daal and rice) to the poor and the devotees in Shani Mandir or temple on Saturdays.

3. Take some Black Til (Sesame), Black Maa ki Daal, put some til/mustard oil in it and pour it over the Iron or Black Shila Idol of Shanidev placed in the temple.Do this on an every Saturday for continues 40 Saturday or 11 Saturdays.

4. Donate Chappals made of leather, blankets, umbrella to the poor on a Saturday outside the Shani temple.

5. Feed lepers or the handicapped on a Saturday near Shani dev temple.

6. Install the black Horseshoe at home front gate.

7. Do not buy any metal or oil on a Saturday.

8. Read the Shani Stuti after lighting a Til oil lamp under a Pipal tree on Saturdays. Below here is the
Shani Stuti.

Konastha pingalobabhruh
Krishnoroudraantakoyamah
Souri, shanaischaro mandah
Pippaladishu sansthitah

9. Start worshipping Lord Shani Dev every Saturday, those who having an afflicted Saturn in their

horoscope and they should light a sesame lamp to Shani dev temple on every Saturday and should recite ”
Dasrath Krit Neela Shani Stotra ” either for 40 days or for continues 40 saturdays.

Here is the stotra for same From Skanda Puran

The following is the Dasaratha Shani Stotra from Padma Purana

Dhyaathwa Saraswatim Devim Gananatham Vinayakam.Raja Dasharathah sthothram Saureridhamathakaroth.Namo Neela mayukhaya Neelothpala nibhaya cha,Namo Nirmaansa dehaaya Deergha shmashru jataaya cha,Namo Vishaala nethraaya Shushkodhara bhayaanakaNamah parushagathraya sthularomaaya Vai namahNamo nithyam Kshudhaarthaaya Nithyathapthaya Vai namah
Namah Kaalaagni rupaaya Krthaanthaka namoshthuthe,Nameste Kotaraakshaaya Durnireekshyaaya Vai namahNamo Ghoraaya Raudraaya Bheeshanaaya KaraalineNameste Sarva bhakshaaya Valeemukha namosthutheSurya putra namestesthu bhaskare bhaya dhayaka

Adho-drushte namasthubhyam vapuhshyaama namosthuthe

Namo Manda-gathe thubhyam nisthrinshaaya namo namah

Thapasa dagdha-dehaya nithyam yogarathaya cha

Namesthe gyaana nethraya kashyapathmaja sunave

Thushto dadasi Vai raajyam rushto harasi Thathkshanaath

Devaasura manushyaashcha pasupakshisareesrpaah

Thvaya vilokithaah saure dainyamaashu Vrjanti cha

Brahmaa shakro yamashchaiva rishayah saptha-tharakaah

Rajya bhrashtaashcha t’e sarve thava drishtyaa vilokithaah

Deshaa nagara graamaa dweepashechai vaadrayasththaa

Raudra Dhrushtyaa t’u ye drushtaah kshayam gacchanti thath kshanaath

Prasaadam Kuru me saure varaartheham thavaashrithah

Saure kshamasvaaparaadham sarvabhutha hithaayacha

10. Best Remedy for Sade-sati is regularly read the Hanuman Chalisa and Bajrang Baan to please Hanumanji for pacifying extent of Sade-Sati and other Dasha effects.

11. Offer prayers to Lord Shiva as Lord Shiva is the guru of Lord Saturn. Do Either Rudra Abhishek with Bel Patra and other Pancha Amritam and Read Rudra Ashtakam on every Monday and Saturday for a blessed life.

12.Daily Feed crows (vehicle of Lord Shanidev) with a cooked and first-morning meal from your own meal every day.

13. Be gentle to your maids, servants, vendors, hawkers, labourers, cleaners, low grade workers.Never try to grab their money or harass them, Pay their dues on time and win the love of Saturn.


14. Take care of and love your Mother, father (GrandfatherGrandmother) with uttermost devotion and do proper Seva till elder age, as Lord Shani-dev loves his mother very much from the core of the heart. So you should not disrespect and neglect your duties toward your parents, if you do so you can face the wrath of the Shani dev, even though Shani Dev has some issues with his father (Surya dev) but from the core of the heart, he has true respect for his father.

14.The Best cure for Sade Sati is to daily chant Maha-Mantra of Lord Saturn Maha mantra:

“Om nilanjana samabhasam | Ravi putram yamagrajam ||

Cahaya martanda samhubhutam | Tama namami Shanescharam||”

The person who has Sade Saati should recite Shani Mahamantra 23000 times within the 7 and ½ years. Shani Mahamantra’s recital should finish within 23 days. Thus, by reciting the Shani Mahamantra by a ‘mala’ ten times a day, it will finish in 23 days.

15. Chant 108 Names of Shani Dev, ” Shani Dev Ashtottara Shatnamavali “.

(Source and Reference :

https://www.tamilbrahmins.com/showthread.php?t=26113
http://www.shanidev.com/the-cure-for-sade-saathi.html)

Rinanubandhan Theory part 2: Understanding Marriage, Karmic bonds and Soulmate relations astrologically

Past Experiences and Observations: Astrological Understanding on the concept of Rinanubandhan (The Karmic Bonds: Marriage, Relationships, Kids etc)



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As we Studied in previous post what actually is Rnanubandhan theory and how it is connected with every life we are part of it and how each and every relation always shows some sort of pending karmas with every relations. If we want to understand the karmic theory theory we must need to study all the factors of the bond of the past birth karmic actions that results from Karmic debts at the root of repeated lives we take in this cosmic cycle.

Numerous Karma which we are doing in day to day life is leading us in many “Rina” and this Rina further leads to Karma again. It is a two way cycle, If you have given or done something to somebody in some life, the memory of karmic actions will be stored in your Soul (Astral body) and all the memory will be attach with the soul. the person or the soul whom you had done something good or bad will be your debtor or creditor in this birth.


Based on “Karama and Rebirth In Hindu Astrology” as Explained by K.N Rao, Natal chart and rest of Divisional charts clearly shows the Bonds and linkage of the family members we are born into (D1, D9 (Spouse), D12 (Parents, Ancestors)D3(Siblings) and D7(Children’s).

For e.g 7th house/lord of the D1 and D9 Shows connectivity of both the couple and it should be examined thoroughly to see the Karmic connection between two of them, for deep connection one should analyze or Match Up-pada Lagana of both the charts to see the soul connectivity. 

For Shorter, casual flicks, Livin-Relations, one should analyze A7(Dara-pada) Arudha/Lord of both the couple charts and their relation or influence of planets on A7, It should show connectivity and sort of sexuality or sort of infatuation one have for other one or partners he or she meets.

Moreover Relationship of Both the Venus and Rahu over each other natal placement in two charts also shows the Stronger Attraction or connecting  point between two people i.e Rahu over Venus, or Venus over Rahu in any of the chart (either Husband or wife or Gf or Bf, or people of karmic attraction) shows one cannot resist each other attraction or it’s very hard for both couples to stay away from much longer period. Rahu aspects the Same sign where other person Venus is placed also shows the Same scenario of uncontrolled desire and passion for each other or strong karmic connection.

Placement and Transit of Mars and Venus over Other chart sign (Where their Mars or Venus placed) also shows where and one can meet each other, shows what is the point of attraction or what made them attract each other.transit of Mars over Venus shows when can one meet his love of life. 

5th house/Lord of the Husband and wife shows what could be their future life wrt to children’s well-being.4th House/Lord of both the charts show how they live in next house with family members; Happily or it would be a path of cactus.Because of the Runanubandham we born in a family falls in close relations, having close friendships, love other people and shares much close bonding between them.  

Below are the points explained by Rao sir based on the Padma Puran:

1) Those who have given Loans in the past life become our Relations in the present birth.

2) The Spouse, The Parents, Siblings, Relations, Servants all are born as a result of the Rinanubandhan.

3)Each one of the relations born according to the Motives of capturing karmas of the present life soon after the death. In the Present birth When he gets that motive fulfilled, after giving terrible pain, departs and leaves a karmic impression in the mind of the native.

4)He Who Lost his property through deceit in the past birth is born as the handsome and accomplished son in the present birth and after inflicting terrible pain goes away.

5) He who takes Loans from others and dies without discharging it takes his birth in that family as a father, brother, wife or friend etc. His behavior is evil. He treats everyone badly, Speaks harshly and enjoys harshly and enjoys life at the cost of others.

6) Bad Children’s behaves like an enemy, hates his parents, makes fun of them, criticizes them, after this marriage, he swindles his parents also.

7) Good children’s obeys his parents from his Childhood, after growing up he keeps remembers to look after his parents, talks sweetly to them and keep them happy always.After the death of the parents, he performs all such rituals i.e Sraddah to give them happiness even in the world to which they have departed after death.

Astrologically for understanding Runanubandham and Karmic relations between two peoplewe need to first understand the karka of planets responsible for karmic linkage and bondages i.e Venus, Rahu, Saturn and AK, Darakarka connection between two people in natal/Navamsa chart. 

Linkage of Venus of two charts with Rahu and Mars and Darakaraka planet/Lord shows our partners/wife/husband characteristics, nature and soul of the partner we are seeking from long past or we may get or influenced by it because of soul level connectivity  .

Darakarka can be any planet having lowers degree in chart i.e Sun, Moon, Mercury etc and the house Darakarka is attached with that, shows the learning and lessons connected with that, if DK is somehow afflicted by Nodes or other separative planets, it can shows the level of sufferings and lessons we may get by the Partner i.e it can be monetary, relationship and sexual lessons too.Purpose of any chara Karka  in any of the chart is to filter that house or planet characteristics in longer run for higher purpose.

Navamsa chart 7th house/lord planet has deeper says on Physical characteristics and matching between two people i.e It is possible that the planet placed in D9 7th house has some link with the Lagana and characteristics of the partner. If Mercury is placed in D9 7th house of the Husband shows wife must be having deeper skills, characteristics, colour complexion resemblance with mercurial traits. Wife might be very much skilled, communicative, stout, Having wheatish/Greyish or darkish complexion or lagana of the wife might be influenced by the Mercury.    

In Chara Karka Principals, DK Being a Lagnesh and 7th lord always be a  learning lesson for the native if he fail to understand the actual meaning of Dk is, Usually i have seen When DK is 7th lord, native usually have distorted ideas with respect to sexuality and spirituality. Native might feel difficulty to  understand what actual is relationship, either he refrained from getting intimate with the partner or he feels that the bond of marriage is very pious and very spiritual and in reverse case native is too attached with the idea of sexuality and libido, this somehow indicates level of lessons and sufferings via partnerships and other partner.

If DK Being a lagnesh native might get spiritual lessons via his partners and helps him or her to understand the true meaning of Relationship bond. Purpose of Karka is only to filter the Soul of the native in right direction to get heal or release pain of karmic bonds.

In Many of cases,  Either it is a case of Boy or girl, if AK is malefic and 7th lord too and it is retrograde, this will clearly indicates the level and pain of relationship suffering will be very much intense due to the overindulgence  in sexual relationships  or having higher libido in marriage , Usually these people have idea that the marriages and relationships are only meant for Sexual gratification of senses. If they didn’t get in one relationship, for satisfying their senses they keep on falling  in other relationships till they are not satisfied and result is numerous Disturbance in karmic energies due to many sexual relationships before and after marriage.

As per my experience, If you found someone you met  or interact with deeper emotional sharing that doesn’t means the guy or girl is your true soul mate, it is only a relation of Karmic bond and the reason being you are strongly connected with that person might be due to Sharing of Same Atma Karka, i.e Both the girl and guy having Same AK in their natal chart this clearly means connection of two souls from past lives, If Guy AK is lord of 5th house and and girl Ak is lord 7th house then the level of Bond will be very strong and if it is afflicted it can shows sufferings, if it is without affliction that can shows long lasting karmic  bond unless the debits is not fulfilled.  

True Spiritual Relationship between two people happens when the AK of any one of the person is connected with UP-pada lagana/Lord of the other one in natal chart.If Laganas of both the couple fall in each of their UL then it clearly shows both the couple are made for each other and they will understand each other in Soul level and will help in karmic uplifting of the karamas.

Multiple relationships before marriage are seen from the Strength of A7 ( Dara-pada) lord in D1 and D9 chart, If A7 is getting aspects from many planets that can shows  native might fall in number of relationship but it is not sure all the relationships will be sexual or karmic.

If A7 lord is having relationship with the 7th house or 7th lord or if  the 7th lord aspects the 7th house or UL then the motive of the marriage would be only physical or getting sexual gratification from marriage.

If A7/Lord is having mutual relation with the Arudha Lagana ( AL) – native will interact with number of people of Opposite sex but it is not sure interaction will be physically oriented unless and until  both the lords are having link with the 7th house or lord.

If A7 and UL both are somehow interconnected in D1  it clearly shows love marriage between two people but the longevity of the bond only be dependent on the strength of 2nd lord from UL in D9 and D60 chart.

Presence of 7th lord or venus in 7th house also shows getting relationships only for satisfying higher libido or   sexual gratification with the people those falling in close friend circle area.

Connection of 11th lord With A7/lord also shows Relationship with the close friend circle area those whom you get interacted via Social network, the planet which is connected with the A7 shows what sort of connection helps to get close, i.e Venus – Shows getting close with friends after parties and social communities or gathering etc.

Same-way, If we see the root cause of any relationship, In Deeper reality, any long lasting and Deep rooted relationships or Marriage relationships are a fruits/results of our good Sanchit (9th house/lord) and bad Prarabdh (6th house/lord) karmas we perform in earlier births those we take in cosmic cycle of birth system.

Based on those accumulated karmas either we enjoy (Punya karama -5th house ; kids, if 5th house is well placed or somehow connected with the 9th/9th lord) those relations or realises or suffer     (In that case Level of Karmic suffering would be seen in D30 chart and lord of 6th/8th of d1 in D30 shows the deep rooted issue and level of sufferings) on account of those relations based on good/bad deeds we had done in past.

If you had done good Karamas in past birth Marriage will be most fruitful and same result can be check in D9 (Dharamsa – Fruits of Sanchit and Dharama related to marriage and relations) and d60 (Past Karmic actions) chart too.

In D9 or D60 chart Venus (In Male charts) and Jupiter, Mars and Darakarka planet  (In Female charts) will be free from any affliction, if the relations are fruitful.

In Many of case if  Ak Is badly afflicted with nodes and somehow connected with Venus or Darakarka relationship will be intense and suffering can be indicated.

If you had done anything bad wrt to any men or women in  many of past birth, in current birth chart, 6th House and 6th lord in D1 will be most afflicted and somehow will be connected with DK/AK/UL or 2nd from UL and will always try to disturb the marriage in any way.

Whenever 6th lord make any relationship or influences the 7th house, 7th lord, UL/lord (Up-pada Lagana) or A7/lord (Darapada) in d1 chart and other marriage supporting houses natives either will face delays in the marriages,suffers or if somehow native falls in relation of love or close bonding, relationship will be like a path of cactus or level of suffering in that relationship will be intense or severe and can be soul revealing.In severe cases AK is closely influenced nodes and somehow connected with DK/Venus/UL/A7 lord.

In many of cases i have seen if AK is deeply afflicted or some way connected with Suffering  (8th lord) houses/lords/nodes or has some relation with either Venus or UL or A7 arudha it can also shows problem after getting relationship. The only Purpose of all is to realise the soul, the lesson of pasts karmic actions or realising the pending karamas and moving ahead after the pain and guilt, just to self realise  same-way one has given sufferings to the other, you also also have to go through with same pain. Karmas role is to always realise or teach the soul suffering for deeper spiritual growth in current birth.

Some souls fall on account of those suffering but some souls get transform them into new beginning of spiritual life.

This can be check in D9 chart with the strength of Ak, If Ak is deeply conjugated with Malefic planets/nodes or debilitated placed in trik Bhavas from Lagana of D9, it clearly indicates level of soul suffering will be intense and one has to suffer badly on account of past deeds and possibility is too that either native fall back in this birth unless and until he realizes the true essence of lessons , as Ak is weakly placed and debilitated too. Debellation  shows the Tamao Guna nature of the soul , means bad karmic actions in this birth.

Choice is clearly in the hands of native what he want to achieve from that suffering, rise from that or fall in that. This clearly suggests one has to pay back its karma in any form, either in this birth or in next birth if somehow native able to carry forward it to next with the blessings of Seers and divine souls.

In Broader level Good Karamas are mainly categorised in Sanchit Karamas, even though bad are also categorised in it too but level of result is quiet different. Result of Sanchit karma can come out at any time in your life when good dashas and transit supports. May be it can come in pre-marriage life or may be after post marriage life.It is purely dependent on transits of slow moving planets with dashas of 6th/8th/12th or nodes on those houses having relation with past deeds.

Case Study I: Male Chart | Female Chart – Irony in Love Life and Karmic Debt


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Analysis : Here in Both the charts Karmic Debit and Concept of Runanubandham clearly seen.  Past Birth Karmic Rina starts when Native (Male Chart) Venus Vimsottari Dasa started After November 2006 and exactly During the End of Moon Pratyantar(PD) dasha (6th lord Moon in 10th- Karmic actions of Past) Native met his karmic soul mate, Having subha Argala of Moon on A7, falling in 2nd from A7(Darapada – Shows Gf/Bf/Casual flicks/Deep infatuation etc). 

Boy Met Lady Love in his work environment  and soon after Love Affair Started in Workplace ( 7th lord from from Venus- Moon is in 10th house).Placement of A7 shows where one can meet his Love (Here A7 is in 9th house – Shows religious Places, Holy shrines, Religious institutes, Educational institutes).

Exactly Native met his Lady love in an Educational institute and the bond of the attachment was so strong that both the people get attracted toward each other. 

Relation too Starts In Venus AD period in Mercury MD Period, As Both the planets including Moon are giving Subha Argala to the A7 Arudha placed in 9th house, Shows Stronger connection between both the people.

But Question here arises is how both have strong Karmic Bonding, 

In Female chart A7 too placed in 9th house of higher house of an Educational institution and also be the Vimshottari Dasha lord too. 

Further Venus and Mercury are also placed in 7th house In female chart giving rashi Drishti to the A7 Arudha, other than Saturn also placed in Scorpio sign aspecting to Sign and planet placed in A7 Arudha which is luckily to be placed in 9th house of higher education and deep wisdom, further shows Stronger influence of Saturn, Venusian  and Mercurian trait in Partner (Artist or Musician, Hard work, Having Deep interest (Saturn in Scorpio) in occult etc).

Moreover Venus, Mercury and Mars also giving Subha Argala to the Moon having A7 Arudha in it – Again shows including Mercury, Venus and Mars  dashas are also stronger contender for starting of relation in Vimsottari MD of Moon in Venus AD period.

Same thing is Clearly seen in K.N Rao Chara Dasha where period from 2003 April to 2013 April Showing Dasha can give relations to Her, Whereas scorpio Dasha ( Saturn ) is falling in 8th from the A7 and 2nd from the AL Arudha Shows – this dasha can give love relations those can be very much fatalistic or marak  in nature for the Girl life too and can give downfall via those relations too. 

Further it can be seen from Natal chart placement too, 5th/8th lord Jupiter is placed in 8th house with 7th lord Rahu and Lagnesh Sun – Relations are fatalistic for Girl Life and health.

In Deeper reality A7 is also placed in Badhak Sthan too, which means moon is acting as Bhadak too. 

This actually Happened, Exactly in Moon MD, Venus AD and Mars PD, Vimshottari period relation started in the Chara Dasha of Taurus (Mars placed there), falling in  2nd from A7 Arudha.    

Both the Girl and Boy Shares Same Retrograde AK (Saturn), 7th lord of Girl Saturn is Ak as well retrograde placed in 4th house in the sign of Scorpio aspecting the Lagna , that further shows Past birth Karmic bond and pending relation from the early life with having deep and stronger desire to meet each other. This Was actually the first reason both the people was deeply involved in the relation. 

Irony was only that, both the Ak are saturn showing a deep desire and lesson via relationships but also shows Karmic bond from past birth and link of debt and bondage that Boy  and girl has to pay in any case, as Saturn is placed in 8th house of the natal chart in male chart and in female chart Saturn is placed in 4th house, falling in 2nd( Health Sufferings- 6th lord – Diseases and Sufferings due to past deeds) from the AL .

Girl Lagana is falling in the 7th house of the native, having aspect from (Graha Drishti) Mercury and Rashi Drishti of Venus and Jupiter. Boy Lagana is falling in the 7th house  of the girl chart where Mercury and Venus is there and same Mercury is placed in the Boy Lagana – again shows Stronger infatuation, attraction and Liking toward each other. Again shows Karmic link between two people.

Sign of the A7 Arudha of girl chart is falling in the Boy 7th house from Al, A7 Arudha of Boy is falling in the AL of the Girl – again shows stronger attraction between two people other than Soul and Karmic Bonding between.

End of this karmic bond was very ironical, as girl died at the age of 23 by Brain Tumor and with some unknown psychological reasons ,that is clearly seen from her chart. 

Irony started in Mars MD period (Bhadkesha), aspected by 6th Lord Saturn falling in 2nd from A7 and 8th from the AL- that shows the fateful and fatal end of the girl life due to immense pain, health sufferings and sorrow (Lagnesh in 8th house with Rahu). 

Same thing is seen from the Boy chart too – Venus was Bhadkesha as well as A7 and UL lord placed in 12th house in both D1 and D9- Maturity into serious relationship of Marriage was impossible in this case and it was definitely lead into fateful end, whereas Rahu is falling in 2nd from the UL clearly shows that , also Dispositor lord of venus, Saturn was closely conjugated in the 8th house with Mars clearly shows the sorrowful end in relationship.

In D9 Chart of Male, Bhadkesha   lord Venus was conjugated with Rahu too shows the cause of separation and sorrow in relationship, falling in 9th from the Karakamsa and placed in the 12th house of D9 chart.

I Hope this way people can help and understand their Karmic bonds and this will definitely be a reference article for their karmic sufferings, Pain and delays and to further explore their Runanubandham relations.  

With thanks and Regards,
Rakesh Singh Jamwal

Source and Reference:

Art of Living- Gyan Dhara. ( Sri Sri Ravi Shankar ji)
http://isha.sadhguru.org
Karama and Memory : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO8QzMWZbN4
Jaimini Sutras by Sanjay Rath

Karma and Rebirth By Kn Rao

Mystery of the 8th House in vedic Astrology Part 2

Mystery of 8th House in vedic Astrology Part 2 : Understanding Spirituality and analyzing case studies

Spiritual Experience regarding 8th house: Kundalini and Chakra

In First Post we try to understand how the 8th house has a deep relation with the longevity, pain, sufferings and life transformations, now in this part, we will try to understand How deeply it is important for Raising once spiritual awakening.

Readers can check on Part 1st of 8th house deep factors from Here

During the recent past years, I have heard and seen from many of people who are scared about the dreaded fear of 8th house – as being 8th house is always about a house of death, house of past birth curses, house of sufferings, Delays, Hurdles and obstacles and Many more blah blah things without knowing its spiritual essence etc.

One should always remember the death of Soul and Body is only one aspect of the 8th house, it has many more hidden secrets that are stored in the deep mystery world.

Death is majorly seen only when the strength of Lagnesh (1st) and 8th lord is purely devoid and weakly placed in D1, D9 and d60 chart.The main planet for Seeing Death via 8th house is always a separative planet ( Nodes ).

Always remember God never punishes you without any reason, he is the one who gives us new chance and watches our every action, and those who aspire to reach new heights for the new spiritual journey out of your past karmic actions and sins, he gave them bliss of spirituality for guiding mankind in the right path. Those who are in fear or guilt of their past actions god gave them first opportunity to learn and helps to let them transform themselves into a new path of spirituality for the well being of own soul and other pathless souls.

Astrologically, let me tell you 8th house energy is not easy to understand in simple layman language, it’s being Karka house of Scorpio, Saturn (Longevity) and Ketu (Occult and higher Spirituality).One should know first what saturn (Karmic Transformations)Scorpio and Ketu   (Pending Karams, Occult and divine spirituality) represents – Initially Saturn being lord of Mooladhara chakra first gets disturbed here due to imbalanced mundane desires arise after sufferings, delays and hurdles and out of those difficulties it makes person first empty hand and when further those disappointments makes your more closer toward higher divine path it activated the Kundalini energies toward higher chakras and when all the chakras in balance state, everything including any sort of mundane desires will be comes to you without any efforts but in right time, but first preparation and learning is important Here.

Ketu being the karka of 8th it makes you ultimate divine and after learning of pending karmic duties it balances you so that you can move further without support. It’s the Universal rule, to activate your kundalni energy you need to first become balance and eligible for it and when it reaches to 12th house (Higher Sub Conscious samadhi) it makes one more toward higher almighty and its dhayan.

logically it’s not a house of death of Body and Soul, its a house of death of ego and false intelligence (represented by lagana) being falling in 8th from 1st – it ends the lagana false properties and over proud – as Rahu and Sun being stronger in lagana.

It’s more a house of spiritual transformation and sacrificing your mundane desires and gives a new understanding of spirituality being falling in 9th from 12th. It’s about the house of surrendering your false ego and destroying your falseness given by Lagana.

when you surrender all of your mundane desires and greeds it gives you new transformations that where your new experience spiritual journey starts. Mundane sufferings lead to the new journey of spirituality and transformations and end is peace and you will be a blessed one that where the roles of 9th house came ( Divine wisdom).

That’s why it is falling in 5th (Skilled require for Bhakti) from 4th – the moksha trine, where 4th is the bhakti sthan then 8th is the house of sadhna required for bhakti for divine mother – where it sits. being fallen in 12th from 9th house of Sanchit karama it represents the what is left from your past karams – the debits of past that you have to finish in this birth without any if and buts. Debits are not curses, they are left over tasks that you have to finish in any case. Its not a house of curses it only shows your debits of past wrt to your past karmas and actions you had unknowingly done by moving in Adharamic path due to negligence of intelligence and believing in false ego and proud.

 

Being the Natural Zodiac house of the Scorpio and 8th house it is related to the Mooladhara chakra whose colour is yellow shows the root energy sit in the Kundalini (8th house) at the bottom of the spine goes toward upward direction to lagana where Sahasara chakra sits, hence planet placed in the 8th house shows beginning of the Kundalini energy rising toward upward direction and how it manifest via the planetary energy.

( Source and Reference: By Visti Larsen Jyotisha Fundamentals)

1)  If Moon is there in the 8th house it shows Kundalini activation through Meditation and Mantras.

2) If Ketu is there in the 8th house it shows Kundalini rises suddenly and native need to deal with the sudden burst of energy even they did not performed the spiritual practices earlier.

3) Venus shows awakening of Kundalini via  Following celibacy.

4) Saturn Shows Kundalini Awakening via following Discipline and Hatha Yoga but role of Ketu is most important to balance it.

5) Mars shows Awakening via Following Vyayam  and practicing physical exercises and preserving Virya.

6) Sun Shows Awakening via Gyana Yoga and Atamic Realization.

7) Jupiter shows via the help of one Guru or Spiritual practices did under a learned guru.

So, those having any number of malefic or beneficial planets in 8th house they need not worry, it’s not meant for you to suffer unknowingly it has some deeper meaning, it’s only a call from the higher divine to Surrender yourself toward him and move ahead in the path of spirituality, Yoga, and Divine union  that’s what it shows 11th from 10th house- new beginning (11th) of your karma (10th)
for a society that is needed in this birth.

Only Rahu in the 8th house act as Blockage for Spiritual progress via without strict discipline, it usually disperses the Kundalini energy required to maintain it via Praan Vayu and for moving through via spine, as one cannot able to sacrifice his ego or completely surrender himself toward the almighty.Without total surrender, one can not attain the Kundalini.

In simple language 8th house shows your new spiritual journey toward higher goals, those having planets in 8th house, first Surrender your ego and let move your soul toward a higher journey of hidden secrets of spirituality.

 

Planets in the 8th House:

Sun in the Eighth House

 
The focus is on hiding one’s true nature and makes the individual extremely private and secretive. These individuals are blessed with intuition, psychic abilities, deep dreams, and depth of empathy. These individuals often benefit financially from the father or the father’s side of the family. Healing energies are the blessing of this placement and this person often keeps who they are a secret. Many individuals with this placement are drawn to fields such as law enforcement, psychiatry, massage therapy, counseling, detective work and any field that deals with death, change and behind the scenes actions. People with problems and pain are drawn to these individuals for healing. These individuals have a strong, powerful, intense presence.
Moon in the Eighth House
The focus is on concealing the emotions. These individuals are emotional, passionate and sensitive. They feel other people’s pain and the suffering of others weighs on them. They have to learn to protect themselves because they are highly emphatic and absorb all of the secrets and subtle energy in the environment. These individuals often benefit financially or receive an inheritance from the mother or the mother’s side of the family. These individuals suffer through the sacrifice of themselves for others and often in their lives feel victimized emotionally by others. Issues of sexuality often bring confusion and suffering until they find the right person to share intimacy with. These individuals bond through the sexual experience and need not only physical but emotional depth in any relationship.
Mercury in the Eighth House

The focus is on a depth of thought and communication. These individuals need deep communication and intellectual intimacy in relationships. They enjoy sharing their deepest, darkest secrets with others and need others to open up to them verbally. They often keep their thoughts to themselves for fear that others will not understand them. These individuals often think about death and their own mortality and at times worry about this topic. They have a keen, insightful mind and sharp tongue.
 
Venus in the Eighth House
 

The energy is focused on keeping the love nature secret and private. These individuals often benefit through the marriage partner and tend to marry someone of a higher financial status than themselves. They are blessed by the partner’s possessions and relationship. Their love nature is deep, possessive and intense.

Mars in the Eighth House

The energy is used to express aggression, drive, and ambition. These individuals often find themselves in conflict with others and with relatives at some time in their lives. The sexual nature is strong with this placement and can become addictive if not balanced. These individuals have intense passions and dramatic shifts in emotion. They feel strongly about things and respond assertively. There is a danger of accidents and surgeries. These individuals need to exercise regularly as it will aid in balanced health. If they repress their natural energies and drives they can find themselves suffering from illnesses. It is important for them to have a healthy outlet for their intense nature.

Jupiter in the Eighth House

The energy is focused towards expansion, abundance and good luck. These individuals often inherit money, land, and goods from the dead. They often are naturally lucky and are looked after by others. They draw financial and material things into their lives easier. This is a positive position of Jupiter and I often see individuals with intuitive gifts that come naturally.

Saturn in the Eighth House
 
The energy is focused on learning and discipline. These individuals are learning self-control and often repress their desires. Sexual tensions are high with this position and often these individuals are afraid of intimacy. They can overcome this fear by being vulnerable and letting go of the need to control their own emotions. This placement also shows a karmic wound in areas of sexuality, intimacy, relationships, death, and inheritances. The positive manifestations of the eighth house may be blocked with this placement because Saturn is the planet of karmic learning and this process is sometimes painful. The true lesson of this placement is to let go of the past and learn to trust others and themselves.
 

North Node(Rahu) in the Eighth House


Individuals with North Node in this house are born to be healers.  their spiritual mission in this lifetime is to heal others and many do this through energy work such as reiki, pranic healing, yoga, massage therapy and psychotherapy. These individuals are learning to let go of the past and detach from the need for physical, material and emotional security. They must embrace change and oftentimes the universe forces them to change by taking things away from them. This can manifest as divorce, a death of a loved one, loss of job, etc. The purpose of this pain is to force these individuals to become more spiritual and to become the “wounded healer.”

South Node(Ketu) in the Eighth HouseIndividuals with South Node in this house are meant to focus on finding security and balance in their lives. They have been through drama, change, and upheaval in the past and now desire to settle down and find comfort. They are meant to stick with things to completion and not end things before it is time. They are born to accumulate possessions and to focus on practical matters this lifetime.

Case Studies:

Case study 1: Jyotish, Spirituality, and Research: Author of Jagannath Hora ( P.V.R Narasimha Rao)

This is a strong chart of Having strong Spiritual Transformations and doing deep research after experiencing Jyotish Journey, meeting Jyotish Guru and later diving deep in exploring Jyotish scriptures. Here, Lagnesh being Beneficial is in 8th house with 8th lord Mars, 2nd lord Venus (Beneficial), 6th Lord Saturn and getting aspect from Retrograde Jupiter (Beneficial) shows long life – with blessing of spiritual bliss via Mode of Jupiter (Guru, Jyotish and spirituality etc) and also shows sharp mind, with straightforward logical approach while writing and speaking. Junction of Mercury, Mars, and Saturn shows having a greater level of patience in engineering and calculative tasks, and also furthers shows native would be an expert mathematician. All the junction falls in 3rd from Moon shows very much skilled in calculative tasks, lagnesh and 3rd lord link also shows Dhi-Manta yoga in research and showing ability and presence of the sense of logical approach in every way.

Case study 2: Spirituality and Meditation: Osho Rajneesh

 



This is an another example Strong chart of showing the higher order of spirituality and learning experience after deep meditation. Here lagnesh Venus (Beneficial) is in 8th house in the sign of Sagittarius, with 10th lord Saturn, 3rd Lord Moon, 5th lord Mercury and 12th lord Mars shows – highest order of transformations and deep spirituality after experiencing Deep meditation.Lagnesh is placed in 8th house of occultism with 2nd lord Mercury shows very much logical approach and highest order of intellect, making him a blissful speaker with profound logic. Junction of planets on Sagittarius signs shows deep thought on ideas of revolution of deep mystery, higher wisdom and life philosophy. Even chart also shows the presence of Dhi-Manta yoga, writing ideas based on experiencing deep emotional thoughts.

 

Case study 3 : Short life and life Transformations

 

This is an example chart showing short life at the age of 23 after facing serious disorder of neural and blood clotting.Here lagnesh Sun (Head) is in 8th house with 8th lord Jupiter and North node Rahu shows Short life span due to some sort of accidents or disorder related with the head. Moreover, 6th lord Saturn also in close mutual aspect with Bhadkesha Lord Mars falling in 8th from AL too further shows a serious threat to longevity.

This is all about 8th house in astrology and how it is linked with Spiritual reality of the vedic astrology.

Mystery of 8th House in vedic Astrology Part 2 : Understanding Spirituality and analysing case studies.

  • Note: We will release  3rd version too where we will try to explain how other houses are interlinked with the mystery of the 8th house.

With thanks and Regards,
Rakesh Singh Jamwal

Source and Reference:
Brihat Parashara hora shastra by G.C Sharma
PhalaDeepika V Subramanya Shastri
Jataka Parijata by V Subramanya Shastri
Sarvartha Chintamani by J.N Bhasin
Jyotisa Fundamentals: My Masters Words by Visti Larsen
Light on Life: An Introduction to the Astrology of India by  Robert E. Svoboda

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